a circuit overseer friend of mine serving in latin america called me today to say hi.
i asked him what's new and he dropped the news that they have received notification that the branch in mexico will be closing!!
this branch also called the central american branch (although located in mexico) oversees all of mexico's 800,000+ publishers plus all 7 countries of central america of over 100,000 publishers.
As far as how would CO's support themselves, when we served where the need was great, my elder husband was always gone doing elder stuff for the hall he made just 200 a month and still the CO at the time would rebuck him and me every time he came through to do more for the hall just relie on Jehovah. Just have more faith.
I could see them making the CO's work without to much strech of the imagination.
LITS
a circuit overseer friend of mine serving in latin america called me today to say hi.
i asked him what's new and he dropped the news that they have received notification that the branch in mexico will be closing!!
this branch also called the central american branch (although located in mexico) oversees all of mexico's 800,000+ publishers plus all 7 countries of central america of over 100,000 publishers.
I can see it somewhat happen. Like Simon said they don't need 3000 anymore, and making the CO's independent isn't that really the way they are headed now. The CO's are the one's who appoint elder's and MS's now without going through the branch.
It used to be if you called the US branch you would at least get the initial's of some made up name, last spring when I called they would not even give you that. They are getting more paranoid and creepy on the phone.
Also I can see them making CO's support themselves, doesn't everyone who serve's where the need is great do that all ready. We did. And any place they send you where they deem the need to be great, it is usually hard to find work. Do they care or help you. No they just tell you to relie on Jehovah and just make sure you get your time in. We got no help from anyone, yet for eveyone who burns out they always seem to have two dying to replace them, by telling them to keep their blinders on and Jehovah will bless them.
Time will tell.
LITS
the elders in this area are getting burned out.
i have overheard comments that demonstrate this, but in my dealings with them, i clearly see it.
they can't keep it straight.
I don't feel one bit sorry for them. I was married to an elder for 21 year's and NON of the other elders wanted to do anything but hold title. My husband was dumped on all the time, given all the crazies in the hall.
Their wives were gossiping bitties who were spiteful and mean.
We never had a marriage because all the crazies demanded so much, I have been yelled at, screamed at, I have been demanded money from the crazies even through we were so poor ourselves, but the crazies felt my husband being an elder should help them with their rent, food, rides, raising their kid's that's a whole ather story. It was all my husband's fault that their kid's were not JW's.
No I don't feel one bit sorry for any of those elders. I truly hope karma takes them out.
LITS
i received a call from one of my job's on saturday who lives in settle wa, she was driving and listening to npr and the interview came on, she said she was shocked at how the jw's are dealing with the child abuse problem.
she has family who are hard core jw's and was sick that her grandchildren could be affected.. she cannot be the only one who has heard this on npr.
just wondering if there will be any fall out from it or if like everything else it will all just die down in jw land.
Blondie
I am not just worried about JW's and their pedophile problem, please don't think that I am that naive to not understand that it is in all places especially the one's you mentioned. I get that, but in the JW world it has impacted me more than any of the places that you mentioned as it has impacted me severely, not that I am in any way what so ever making being molested by a teacher, boy scouts and all the other horrible and horrific places children are abusedin less important.
I just was wondering if in this case the JW religion has anyone heard of fall out from Trey's story on NPR.
If Trey does a story on teacher's molesting children I might ask the same question about that. I do not mean any disrepect to anyone who's been abused by any one in power over them.
https://www.revealnews.org/episodes/secrets-of-the-watchtower/?utm_source=reveal&utm_medium=dist&utm_campaign=zalkin.
not only will you hear howie tran, former-bethelite, but irwin zalkins talks about watchtower's child abuse secrets.
debbie mcdaniels talks about her child abuse and you will hear trey actually talking to the jw who molested her..
I just listened to this finally, I actually feel sick. When Howie said people are wasting their lives, it was me. Everything he said about Bethel, all I can think of is that we had 3 pedophiles in the hall I was in, I was threatened for talking about it.
There was this one man in the hall he loooooved to pioneer, he was around memy whole life. I could never stand him. His kids were older than I and some where in the "truth" but none ever did much. They never did much with their lives, the boy's had kid's by different women they had a hard time holding job's etc. One of this guy's daughters tried to kill herself when she was in her mid teen's by shooting herself.
This man just died on October of this year.and their were so many HE that thought this guy walked on water they held his memorial at a high school.
The other day I thinking about him andhow much I never liked him, I remember being 8, 9 year's old,and how in my teen'she just totally creeped me out. How when I got married he ripped into me because I didn't send him an personal invitation to my wedding. I remember him totally rebuking me telling me that I owed hima privite invite.
To finsh this story. I just realized he was never an elder, I don't even think MS, all those year's pioneering all the admiration why was he never an elder?
i was introduced to the jw religion at the age of 7. i can't recall when i was taught about having to suffer persecution in the so-called last days, but i do remember thinking that i would crumble under pressure.. as i entered my young adult years, i imagined how governments would persecute us.
i had thoughts of being tortured for information and then how i would say anything to the torturer just to stop the pain and then be labeled a modern-day judas, missing out on everlasting life.. the jw way of life and expectations are both scary and unrealistic.. i am glad i have canceled armageddon.
also, if i should ever be tortured for some belief or principle, i shall remain strong until the end.
Evil is all I can say. I to had nightmares, I one teacher grab me and force my hand over my heart, another shook me so hard I thought my neck would snap. I was 7. I look back and just can't understand it. I was a kid, how could an adult a teacher be so mean to a child who is in a cult?
LITS
https://www.revealnews.org/episodes/secrets-of-the-watchtower/?utm_source=reveal&utm_medium=dist&utm_campaign=zalkin.
not only will you hear howie tran, former-bethelite, but irwin zalkins talks about watchtower's child abuse secrets.
debbie mcdaniels talks about her child abuse and you will hear trey actually talking to the jw who molested her..
Love the work Tray is doing. One of my job's even saw his part on PBS and was impressed as she has JW family and she said it helped her to talk to them about this.
how jehovah's witnesses leaders hide child abuse secrets at all costs.
by trey bundy.
reveal news.
Thanks for sharing this also.
LITS
it's come out in my old congregation that, not one, but two child molesters have been hiding in my old congregation.
i knew both of them and one of them, an old man, was regularly at my house for field service meetings on a weekly basis.. in my old congregation there's an apostate who was awake long before i was.
unfortunately he cant leave because his wife and children and parents are still full on believers.
We had 3 in the hall I went to here in the North West in the state's.
Same thing the elder's kept it under wraps, even threatened to df me because I told a foster mom. this one elder telling me he had to convince the mom that brother pedophile was safe to be around, all because of me and that I was nothing more than a pure gossip.
It just makes my blood boil.
LITS
Also all the child molesters I have seen loooooove field service. Funny how that is.
i'm not sure where it is airing elsewhere, but on the a&e channel, at 7p then again at 10p est tonight, leah remini is doing a scientology special.
it looks to be a great show.
i am not sure if it is one time, or the beginnings of a series.
Thanks nonjwspoue
LITS
